in washington that is nothing, going over the cliff. we were looking more than 600 dal billion in tax increases and spending cuts. wall street was pleased what they heard today. the president is meeting with top ceos as we speak. make of that what you like. with his take, wyoming senator john barrasso. thanks for coming back to the show. we always appreciate your time. >> thank you, melissa. melissa: what do you think? are we getting closer? to me 23 dal billion, that is a little money. but to you guyuys that is coins in the couch cushion. >> i want to find a solution. i want us to get to an answer on this. some democrats said we should go over the fiscal cliff. i think that would be a mistake. i met earlier today with the same ceos that the president is meeting with at this hour. we need to find a solution. it has to be a he had consider credible solution as well a long-term solution that is the markets can look out and have some confidence in that the cuts are real. that the spending is under control. and that our country is on fiscal